Scott... Yes, I feel that our relationship has received partial rectification from your prior demeening comments.

Wow—active day on the boards… But in other news, I would urge (Scott) that the lack of an overt “gay-gene” argument be reconsidered... as it (at least to me) comes across as a yet-another-evangelical-oversimplification.

You suggested that God loves homosexuals. By doing so, you imply that homosexuality is at the core of one's identity and is in some way inseparable from an individual's personhood. As I do not believe that homosexuality is genetically determined (although there may be a genetic correlation - huge difference there!), I cannot accept the statement: "God loves homosexuals." What I believe is that God has lovingly extended an offer to all people, including those that practice the sin of homosexuality.

Despite our increasing understanding of the Human Genome, it is on the very rare occasion that a single gene is found that accounts for a trait or behavior. On the contrary, many (if not most) of the complex (i.e., disordered) characteristics, attributes or traits are polygenetic, and are subsequently significantly more difficult to demonstrate within our current understanding. (Stuttering being one such example; a predisposition that has inexplicably strong ties to heredity, but lacks a simple genetic explanation.)

I think your argument was to suggest that predisposition or orientation does not condone behavior, and I think it needs to stay there. Bringing in the weakness of the gay-gene research is basing an argument on the current limitations within the prevailing genetic research paradigm. I generally don’t like to place my faith-based arguments on the foundation of a human science.

I choose to believe that the fall perverted humanity and everything else within the universe. Subsequently, there is death and perversion. Is it possible that this perversion affects the neurological development and processing toward the predisposition of gayness? I can’t see why not, as there are documented genetic predispositions toward other deviancies. But this predisposition has no influence on one’s personal accountability to God. In short, sin ensures that life is not fair. Ultimately, the Godly standards applied to us are not relative to human “fairness” secondary to the perversion of humanity. Ipso facto (the word of the day), predisposition, orientation, or personal choice becomes a moot issue relative to accountability toward God. Thus, the issue of a "gay-gene" and gay-sin aren't even on the same continuum.